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Expecting the Worst

Dear ABC:

"Detroit 187" looks like a total embarrassment. Please, reconsider this television show.There's got to be something better you could show on Tuesdays this fall.



P.S. Check out the trailer posted on YouTube after the break and add your thoughts. (Thanks to Savvy for the update.)

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  • 1

    Looks so predictable, cliche' and negative. Sad.

  • 2

    Karen.....You are correct, this is disgusting.
    Why must the media prortray Detroit is such a bad light. They are taking the city to further depths of hopelessness with each display of their "news" programs. Now a new low is on the horizon with this program on ABC-Ch 7.

    ABC is a network that is always pushing the envelope. Programs are always on the edge of offensive. They are pushing families away from the network. They are very bias in their views and set in their ways.

    Perhaps a chat with the directors of ABC would change their mind. This program does not need to air, not now, not ever.

  • 3

    well, the basis of the show looks okay, but why portray Detroit like this?. I can see doing like an NCIS type thing, but this seems to be a bit much.

    And I think the promo is wrong in saying that Detroit is the murder capital. I think we are up there, but more like number 3. New Orleans is #1. I could be wrong.

    Maybe we can be sheer optimists and pray for them to show something positive about Detroit.

    From a positive standpoint, maybe something good will come out of this. Maybe someone not from Detroit will watch, have lots of money and ideas and bring something fresh to the city.

    Is this too optimistic? It happened to Cleveland after all. Do you all remember the Cleveland Flats?

    Well, time to put my rose colored glasses away.


  • 4

    Sad.Detroit does have many bright spots. But it is currently listed as one of the world's Ten Most Dangerous Cities, and rightly so. Just about every neighborhood is plagued with crime and blight. Other cities have been negatively portrayed over the years. Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry movie series was set in San Francisco. Chicago has been negatively portrayed for decades going back to stories about the roaring twenties, gangsters, and prohibition(loved Some Like It Hot(1959)).Detroit seems to cry & whine like a baby when it's gritty side is portrayed. Why? Because the city today is mostly ghetto, slummy, ugly. Homeownership is at an all time low, down to 39% from 49% over past decade ,a declining tax-base that is no longer self-supporting.Tall weeds are growing fast all over town & on the front lawns of vacant houses that have been standing for years. Yesterday, I saw two guys at a gas station who were in jail & are now back in town. I remember three years ago, they were squatting in a house where they posted balloons & had front yard sales selling stuff they stole from all over the city. They used to dress in yellow vests, hard hats, and set up orange cones by unoccupied houses to scavenge & steal.Caught one back then trying to remove my back yard gate from an alley. He couldn't, but the gate was turned upside down. I had to put on more chains.
    Having lived in Detroit since my birth in the late 1940s,I have witnessed the destruction & demise of one neighborhood after another, especially in the past thirty years at lightning speed.
    Yes, the city has lots of good things to do. I love Downtown & the cultural center. I received two degrees from WSU. And their are a few nice pockets of pretty streets in our hoods. I have a good friend in Green Acres, lovely area. But even there, crime is creeping in, activities that were unheard of in that area just ten years ago. Same for East English Village. Seems the destructive class is running out of neighborhoods to destroy.
    I also read a recent front-page story in the Wall Street Journal focused on the current black-middle class flight from the city. Story centered on a die-hard Detroit woman who finally gave up after her house on Atkinson street was set on fire while she was at work.
    So i can understand why ABC is doing a crime series set in Detroit.It's about time. What took so long? I think I'll send them some story ideas. I have many, too many, & these are all true, nothing make-believe.

  • 5

    I'm as sensitive to Detroit's image as anyone, but I think that viewers will be able to decipher this as fiction.

    I actually like this idea. I like that they are using local images as the backdrop. I like the trailer. I like what I have seen of the cast. This could potentially do for Detroit what Law and Order, NYPD Blue and NY Undercover did for New York -- make the city into a star.

    Even Chicago doesn't have a show with its name in the title! They'll be so jealous, lol. (I'm kidding!)

  • 6

    Looks interesting. I'll give it a try.

    As far as Detroit's portrayal by the's time to get over it. Make Detroit into the type of place people will say nice things about. That is the only answer.

  • 7

    Really? This is supposed to be storytelling? Looks like bad TV to me. I thought it was supposed to be a comedy at first. Should bring an interesting brand of tourism to the city.

  • 8

    When I first saw the clip, I laughed. Then I e-mailed it to everyone I knew who either (1) lives in Metro Detroit or (2) used to live here.

    It's ridiculous and horrible. What makes it funny is that the truth can be so absurd.

    My hope is that it will open the world's eyes to the absurdity that exists in Detroit, and citizens that are affected by it on a daily basis.

  • 9

    I live in Lafayette Park and the lawnmowers and blowers drowned it out.

    Was anything truthful said?

    Or is it Americas' loss of integrity personified.

    I'll bet ole KK loves it though.

    He liked the godfather which is the worst movie ever.

  • 10

    This kind of TV sells, especially to people who don't have to live amidst this kind of environment. Of course, there's lots of Detroit that doesn't consist of people shooting people, but that doesn't make for good television.

    But the Detroit residents themselves—how do they feel about being made the collective subjects of this kind of show? A lot of people who don't live in the area already see Detroit as nothing but an unsalvageable mess. The city doesn't need any more of that opinion.

    The U.S.A. has a lot of opportunities for manufacturing, though we won't for long as other developing nations catch up. Now is the time for tariffs and tax benefits for domestic industry! There are a lot of young enterprising people who would love to start their own industries here, and Detroit, with access to the Lakes and a huge unemployed workforce (many of whom are nice, ordinary people who want good jobs!), has a great opportunity for revitalization. With a few national laws on international trade, Detroit could boom again.

    It's idealistic, very idealistic. But it's more possible than many people realize. The U.S.A. needs it—and the U.S.A. needs Detroit.

  • 11

    The FBI stats for 2008 for murder and non-negligent manslaughter show Detroit in 4th place (33.8 per 100,00) and trailing New Orleans (63.6), St. Louis (46.9), and Baltimore (36.9). So the producers advertise their show with a factual error--artistic license I suppose. My guess is that the number is higher than 33.8, perhaps because of an underestimate of number of murders and an overestimate by Census of population. Since 1996 the murder rate has fluctuated between 40 and 48. It dropped between 1992 and 1996. Martin Daly and Margo Wilson present the scientific view on homicide if anyone's interested. Major category of homicide? There are a lot of armed young men in Detroit and other big cities and they occasionally wind up killing other young men who they see as their rivals for status, women, drug markets, and other good stuff. Unfortunately, there's not enough homicide detectives and other personnel to keep up with all the work.

  • 12

    I remember how scared I was the first time I walked down Hennepin Avenue in downtown Minneapolis by myself. It was the (horribly cold) winter of 1995-96, I was 15, and Minneapolis had been renamed 'Murderapolis' because for the calendar year 1995, there had been nearly 100 homicides in Minneapolis (population 370,000). My friends from 'further east' (in particular Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit and Buffalo) would say that Minneapolis is paradise compared to the reality of their hometowns. I never understood this until last year when I visited Milwaukee, Chicago and Detroit over a six week period (actually it was more of a self-dare...I ran three different marathons, and each city, in my opinion, was fantastic). I don't mean to be condescending, but what people in (especially) Milwaukee and Detroit don't realize is that, us from the outside know the realities there. After visiting, I'm very careful not to criticize either city because while their downtowns are not lined with brand new skyscrapers like Minneapolis, and not overpopulated with young people who have three masters' degrees and are working at some Fortune 500 company, in Milwaukee and Detroit I saw small-town people with big hearts. They don't deny the crime. Some of their own family members are in prison for life. But they have the work ethic and kindness that won me over. These crime shows are going to be for shock value and falshiness. I know media and it's no different from covering a protest: the camera guy uses a tight shot to give the illusion that tons of protestors are there, mad as hell. Take it to a wide shot and you see a group of maybe 12 who suddenly stand up and march and chant once the cameras are on. That's the type of show this is going to be. Now I know, when I ran Detroit Marathon, we ran a mostly manicured path but I expected to see 'hell on earth' and what I saw were very kind volunteers who were black, white, gay, straight, male, female, Jewish, Christian, etc...I saw Belle Isle. I saw a couple of restored hotels downtown. I saw a city I would like to see again.

    That was my take on Detroit in late 2009. I'll be back in three months to run again.

  • 13

    I agrre, the acting was bad and I feel it put
    Detroit city in a bad light. I'm glad it's gone.

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